Week 4 Memo
Russ & Sherin,
Greeno & Hall, Ginsburg
The Russ and Sherin article focuses on how teachers can
conduct interviews of students to effectively gauge their ideas about science
topics. This approach can help teachers
decide what students know and are comfortable with and what should be focused
on more during a specific unit. An important quote to remember when thinking
about student interviews is, “In interviews, teachers want to uncover student
ideas, not change them” (Pg. 20).
Effective student-thinking interviews seem to include three steps:
contextualize the concept, probe student responses, and seed new ways of
thinking. They go on to suggest the
questions should be asked in a familiar context to the student. Then students should be asked to clarify and
explain their responses. Finally, you
should ask students about related cases or cue additional information about the
topic. Keys to a successful interview include: think of meaty questions for the
interview, anticipate student responses, and select the students you will
interview as individuals or in a group.
The Greeno and Hall article aims to discuss the importance
of representation for students, specifically learning with and about representational
forms. Greeno and hall suggest, “Forms
of representation need not be taught as though they are ends in themselves”
(Pg. 392). From this they imply that
forms of representation should be, “Considered as useful tools for constructing
understanding and for communicating information and understanding”
(Pg.362). Representations are often
newly constructed for a new situation, so learning to construct and use
representations in different and effective ways is extremely useful. Greeno and Hall encourage that students don’t
just learn different representations because that is what the teacher said
should be used, but rather learn to apply these representations to their
activities at work and outside of school.
This drives home the point about representations being applied and used
as tools, not just as an end in themselves.
The article goes on to give a few examples of how these ideas can be
used effectively. They sum it up nicely
when they write, “We believe that educational purposes are better served if
students are involved in activities in which they learn to construct versions
of representations flexibly and to participate in discussions in which
conventions of interpretation are developed” (Pg. 367).
The Ginsburg chapter gives a detailed layout of some
important guidelines that should be followed for conducting a clinical
interview. He uses the phrase that
conducting a clinical interview is not a cookbook because there is no one
recipe to follow. The process of
clinical interview seems to be very fluid; the nature of the interview depends
on many factors and is continuously changing.
The chapter is broken down into subsets including: preparing for the
interview, recording the interview, establishing and monitoring motivation,
assessing thinking, establishing competence, and determining learning
potential. A key take away from this
chapter is that an interviewer should view the child as an active constructor
of knowledge and assume the child is “engaged in an attempt to construct a view
of the world and means for dealing with it” (Pg. 117). Another important idea is creating trust
between the interviewer and student.
Finally, don’t ask leading questions, but rather ask for justification
of how the student came to the answer.
The common themes of the articles seemed to be about
thinking and communication. Greeno and Hall focused on representations and how
students should use these forms as a way to express what they are thinking and
how to communicate it to others. Russ and Sherin focused more on conducting
student-thinking interviews to uncover students thinking and communication processes
in regards to a specific unit. This
helps the teacher understand where the students are at and create a more
effective lesson plan. Ginsburg focused
on the clinical interview process and how this can help uncover different
students ways of thinking and communication. The Greeno and Hall article
connects nicely to modeling and the importance of constructing effective representation. The other two articles also connect to
modeling by requiring students to answer questions and explain the reasoning
behind what they believe, compared to a scantron test where they are either
simply right or wrong. I really like the
idea of the student-thinking interview and I think that is a great way to gauge
what students actually know and can explain.
This seems like a great way to help create a successful and meaningful
lesson plan. I think it would be helpful
to see a clinical interview and someone actually do one. I am concerned that if I were to conduct one
from only reading that chapter I would probably miss a lot of things,
especially because the process is so fluid.
You pointed out something interesting in the Greeno and Hall paper that I did not focus on well in my own blog. 'Representations should be used as tools for the students to construct understanding.' As we have analyzed in past class for modeling, argumentation, and explanation, if the students stop once they have created a representation, they do not have the opportunity to build on what they learned and use it. Greeno suggests that being able to use representations will help students be more literate later in their jobs, or even in daily life. This brings me to the common theme you pointed out. Communication is one of the ways to show that one understands a concept and knows how to represent it. Maybe this can be seen in a student-thinking interview. For example, if a math problem is given to a student, they will be able to make a representation of what the math problem is prompting them to answer and use it to figure out the answer.
ReplyDeleteWhile interviews can help a teacher understand a students’ level of comprehension, how will teachers be able to schedule these interviews? Interviews can be effective for this and other reasons, but where will teachers find time? What can teachers apply to informal interviews during class that was discussed in Ginsburg’s article? In what ways could teachers use representations to check for students’ understanding? What does it mean to use a representation as a tool rather than an ends to understanding?
ReplyDeleteI think your concern about missing elements of the student's explanation mid-interview is totally valid regardless of how experienced the interviewer may be because as humans we can only notice so many things at once. In Ginsburg's chapter, he mentions various recording strategies but I think either audio or video recording especially could help you see the pieces you may have missed mid-interview. Upon review you may also get a little more perspective on how well you questioned the student and if there were areas where you assumed comprehension that may not have actually been there, just as the teacher assumed her students understood potential energy in the video case study we watched. This type of review may be sufficient if you just want to look at how a student is thinking, but I wonder how a teacher using interview-style questions can optimally get that perspective during a class period and be able to guide the student toward a better understanding quickly enough that a misunderstanding doesn't become too engrained?
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